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4 September 2026

Artist Highlight - Marcus and Esme

Interview and Review

Esme has recently graduated from the University of Bristol with a degree in Engineering Mathematics. While studying she has explored how one can build small scale non-commercial A.I. systems for ethical uses such as locating attacks in war zones. Esme is interested in confronting the notion that these systems are inaccessible and out of our control and wishes to align this technology with more socially conscious aims.

While studying Art and Design BA at the University of Leeds, Marcus has become interested in speculative design practice as a way to rethink relationships with the more-than-human world. These projects are materially driven by wood, aiming to investigate how its associated crafts may play a part in building a more ecologically conscious world.

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ARTIST INTERVIEW

1. New Ways of Listening asks people to crawl into a human scale bird nest. Why was it important for the audience to enter the work with their whole body, rather than simply listen from outside?


In having to bend down and curl up to experience the installation, the viewer is encouraged to physically relate to a bird. The audience passes a threshold, from a world designed purely for human needs, to a space that considers the non-human. Once inside, the audience member is enclosed and alone, allowing a space to resonate with the birds they are hearing.


2. The project uses AI to interpret birdsong, but avoids translating it into human words. What felt wrong or limiting about making birds speak in our language?


Humans have a completely different lived experience to birds, translating their calls into words that fit human understanding risks flattening and misunderstanding the lives of these creatures. We have instead focused on sonifying the emotions that are derived from identifying different song and call types. The outcome is a musical piece which aims to induce specific feelings such as the fear or anger in the audience.


3. There is a playful absurdity in the idea of a nest that translates birdsong into human vocalisation. How do you use humour without losing the ethical seriousness of the project?


Humour provokes people to acknowledge the absurdity present in the idea of translating animals with AI. It highlights the strangeness of the situation where ever increasingly we are using computers to mediate our experiences of the world. We hoped that creating an experience which is slightly ridiculous makes the work more approachable and engaging.


4. This work responds to anxiety around technofeudalism and ecological collapse? How does this piece offer an alternative narrative to these anxieties?


The work responds to anxieties around technofeudalism by challenging the idea that artificial intelligence is an inaccessible technology controlled exclusively by large corporations that sit unresponsive to the environmental impact they have. This project proposes an alternative narrative. Rather than relying on a corporate foundation model like ChatGPT, the installation uses a small bespoke AI, trained for a specific ecological task. Operating on a fraction of the computational power required by large language models, our explainable model demonstrates that AI can be created, understood and adapted by artists and everyday people alike.


5. After someone leaves New Ways of Listening, what do you hope changes in the way they hear birds outside the exhibition?


All of us involved in this project have found that it has changed the way we listen. We now pay far more attention to birds and their vocalisations, noticing them as active participants in our environment rather than as background noise. We hope visitors leave with a similar sense of curiosity and attentiveness, becoming more aware of the complexity of intelligence, communication and emotion within non-human species. We also believe that people are more likely to protect what they feel connected to, and by encouraging a closer relationship with local birdlife, we hope the installation fosters a greater sense of care for the ecosystems that surround us.

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Learning to Listen Without Owning the Conversation

Review by Chih-Yang Chen, Art Director

Listening is usually treated as a form of understanding. We hear something, identify it, name it, and place it within what we already know. New Ways of Listening, a collaborative project by Marcus and Esme, asks whether that habit is also part of the problem. The work brings together artificial intelligence, speculative design, sound, and ecological thinking, but its starting point is very simple. Visitors are asked to crawl into a human scale bird nest and listen. There is something immediately strange, even funny, about this action. The body has to bend, crouch, and fit itself into a space that does not quite belong to it. It is not a comfortable viewing position, and that is exactly what makes it work. Instead of standing outside the installation as an observer, the visitor is asked to enter it physically. The shift is small, but it changes the terms of the encounter. Inside the nest, the body becomes more aware of its own scale. The viewer is no longer looking at nature from a safe distance, or listening to birds as background sound. The work creates a temporary space where human comfort is not the default measure. That physical awkwardness gives the piece much of its strength. What interests me most is the way the project uses AI without treating it as a tool of authority. In many current discussions, artificial intelligence is framed through control, prediction, replacement, or corporate power. Here, it is used in a quieter and more specific way. The system reads patterns in birdsong, but it does not attempt to translate birds into human speech. That decision is important. It would have been easy to make the work about “what birds are saying”, but that would also risk turning birds into simplified versions of ourselves. Instead, Marcus and Esme avoid the fantasy of perfect translation. They do not make birds speak in our language. They work with sound, emotion, and uncertainty. The result is more careful than a direct translation would have been. The installation does not tell the visitor what a bird means. It asks the visitor to spend time with the possibility that another form of intelligence is present, even when it cannot be fully understood. The humour in the work also matters. A nest that uses AI to interpret birdsong could easily sound absurd, and the artists do not hide that. The slight ridiculousness of the situation makes the work more open. It allows people to enter a conversation about technology, ecology, and non-human life without the heaviness that often surrounds those subjects. At the same time, the humour does not make the work less serious. It makes the ethical question sharper. Why do humans so often need to translate other beings before we can respect them? Why does communication only feel valid when it resembles our own? Marcus’s interest in speculative design and material practice meets Esme’s work with ethical AI in a way that feels grounded rather than overly theoretical. The project suggests that technology does not always have to be distant, extractive, or impossible to understand. It can be small in scale, specific in purpose, and shaped around care. This is where the work sits strongly within The Strange Everyday. Birdsong is one of the most familiar sounds in daily life, but it is also one of the easiest to ignore. By placing it inside an unexpected structure, the installation makes that ordinary sound feel unfamiliar again. It asks the audience to listen with more attention, but without assuming ownership over what is heard. The work is not trying to solve ecological collapse, and it does not pretend to decode nature. Its strength lies in something more modest and more useful. It changes the way we notice what is already around us. After leaving the installation, birdsong does not feel quite as passive. It becomes harder to treat it as background noise. That change may be small, but it is not insignificant. New Ways of Listening reminds us that listening is not always about extracting meaning. Sometimes it begins with recognising that another voice exists beyond us, and that we do not need to fully possess it in order to care.

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