4 September 2026
Artist Highlight - Marcus and Esme
Interview and Review
Esme has recently graduated from the University of Bristol with a degree in Engineering Mathematics. While studying she has explored how one can build small scale non-commercial A.I. systems for ethical uses such as locating attacks in war zones. Esme is interested in confronting the notion that these systems are inaccessible and out of our control and wishes to align this technology with more socially conscious aims.
While studying Art and Design BA at the University of Leeds, Marcus has become interested in speculative design practice as a way to rethink relationships with the more-than-human world. These projects are materially driven by wood, aiming to investigate how its associated crafts may play a part in building a more ecologically conscious world.





ARTIST INTERVIEW
1. New Ways of Listening asks people to crawl into a human scale bird nest. Why was it important for the audience to enter the work with their whole body, rather than simply listen from outside?
In having to bend down and curl up to experience the installation, the viewer is encouraged to physically relate to a bird. The audience passes a threshold, from a world designed purely for human needs, to a space that considers the non-human. Once inside, the audience member is enclosed and alone, allowing a space to resonate with the birds they are hearing.
2. The project uses AI to interpret birdsong, but avoids translating it into human words. What felt wrong or limiting about making birds speak in our language?
Humans have a completely different lived experience to birds, translating their calls into words that fit human understanding risks flattening and misunderstanding the lives of these creatures. We have instead focused on sonifying the emotions that are derived from identifying different song and call types. The outcome is a musical piece which aims to induce specific feelings such as the fear or anger in the audience.
3. There is a playful absurdity in the idea of a nest that translates birdsong into human vocalisation. How do you use humour without losing the ethical seriousness of the project?
Humour provokes people to acknowledge the absurdity present in the idea of translating animals with AI. It highlights the strangeness of the situation where ever increasingly we are using computers to mediate our experiences of the world. We hoped that creating an experience which is slightly ridiculous makes the work more approachable and engaging.
4. This work responds to anxiety around technofeudalism and ecological collapse? How does this piece offer an alternative narrative to these anxieties?
The work responds to anxieties around technofeudalism by challenging the idea that artificial intelligence is an inaccessible technology controlled exclusively by large corporations that sit unresponsive to the environmental impact they have. This project proposes an alternative narrative. Rather than relying on a corporate foundation model like ChatGPT, the installation uses a small bespoke AI, trained for a specific ecological task. Operating on a fraction of the computational power required by large language models, our explainable model demonstrates that AI can be created, understood and adapted by artists and everyday people alike.
5. After someone leaves New Ways of Listening, what do you hope changes in the way they hear birds outside the exhibition?
All of us involved in this project have found that it has changed the way we listen. We now pay far more attention to birds and their vocalisations, noticing them as active participants in our environment rather than as background noise. We hope visitors leave with a similar sense of curiosity and attentiveness, becoming more aware of the complexity of intelligence, communication and emotion within non-human species. We also believe that people are more likely to protect what they feel connected to, and by encouraging a closer relationship with local birdlife, we hope the installation fosters a greater sense of care for the ecosystems that surround us.



